The Real Estate Investor Ladder of Success – Trevor McGregor | PREI 076
Today, we have a very special show. It is not specifically about real estate per se, but it is tied to real estate investing, the psychology of it, and how you can be more successful in your real estate investing. I brought on someone who I truly admire, who I met back in Denver about three or four weeks ago. We were both speaking at an event, Joe Fairless’ Best Ever Real Estate Investing Conference. I was really impressed by Trevor McGregor, who is a Master Coach. Trevor has completed well over 10,000 coaching hours. He’s worked with hundreds of clients from around the world to achieve success and fulfillment, including Fortune 500 executives, entrepreneurs, real estate investors and world class professionals.
His mission is to assist others to achieve better health and more wealth and freedom and contribution than they ever thought possible. This really resonated with me.
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The Real Estate Investor Ladder of Success – Trevor McGregor
Trevor, welcome to the show.
Thanks very much, Marco. It’s great to be on the show.
It’s great having you here because I know what you are capable of delivering. I sat through your presentation back in Denver with ears wide open and taking notes. I thought this material and this content and your professionalism would be perfect to have on our show for our audience because they’re going to eat all this stuff up.
Having said that, let’s begin with you. I always like to start off with our guest. Tell us about your journey and how you got into coaching and to real estate investing, because I know you’re a real estate investor as well.
Correct. I’d love to share that. I’m from Canada. I live in Vancouver Canada. I grew up, typical guy, loves sports and really wanted to get into a career or a profession that I love and went to university, studied Business. When I got out of college, I worked for a real estate and hospitality company. What I thought would be an interesting beginning to my career there, it ended up being many, many years of climbing the ranks and working in areas of operations and marketing and finance and HR. I really enjoyed that because I was learning, I was growing. I got married, started a little family.
While I was going through that journey, I also had an opportunity to invest in the company. What I did is I borrowed a whole bunch of money off from family and friends, and cashed in a little bit of our 401K, and popped some money into an investment and things went great for a while. Then when 2001 hit, I took a little bit of a hit. The business couldn’t hang on to our growth plans. It ended up losing a significant sum of the money I had invested.
At that time, I thought to myself, how was I going to get back on my feet and really move things to the next level? I started to work with my own coach. He said, “Trevor, have you ever thought of doing something in real estate?” I said, “Tell me more about it.” Really, Marco, that was the start of the journey. I started to go to seminars, read books, listen to audios. I found that there was a new way of thinking and behaving. In a relatively short amount of time, with a little bit of money that I had scraped together, I bought one little townhouse. That was a great experience. I bought a condo. I pulled the equity out of that to buy my first duplex. I really started to understand cashflow then and I started to buy fourplexes.
In a relatively short amount of time, I had made back a lot of the money that I had lost in my previous business venture and I had a nice little profit on top of that. Does that make sense?
Yes, that’s great.
From that point, people started saying, “Trevor, how did you do it? What did you do to go out there and buy a lot of real estate in a relatively short amount of time?” It was really my son, Mitchell’s, coach on a soccer team that said, “Would you sit with us and share with us what you’re doing?” I think as I started to sit with them and showed them what I had done, that’s when the coaching bug really bit, and I started teaching other family members and friends. I absolutely loved it.
I got to a point in my career where I had to decide, was I going to stay in corporate and work on the corporate side? Or was I going to be a full-time real estate investor and coach? Obviously, I took the latter. I’ve never looked back from there. It’s been an amazing ride so far.
You are a successful real estate investor. You’re into coaching. I know you’re deeply involved with Tony Robbins. I’m not sure what you called the title. Is it a Master Coach with the Tony Robbins Organization?
That’s correct. I’m at the highest level that you can attain with the Robbins’ Organization, which is phenomenal. I am a Master Platinum Coach. That’s where I get a lot of my Fortune 500 clients, from Microsoft, Dell, Oracle, or American Express. My passion is also people that are in real estate, because as a real estate investor, it doesn’t matter if you’re new or if you’re seasoned. There’s always another level, and I know we’re going to talk more about that today, but that’s really what feeds my soul.
I love the material that Tony Robbins puts out. I have all his books. In fact, I remember ordering his original Personal Power program when I was in my late teens, which was around 1988. It was on audio cassette. I still have it. It’s actually sitting here on my bookshelf next to me. These are all audio cassettes in these little book boxes inside of a big paper package. I never let go of it. I want to keep it forever because it came with a journal. I use that journal every time I listen to his audio cassettes to take down my notes and write my goals and just set out my strategy and direction.
Having said that, I’m a big believer in setting goals, in fact, it’s my second rule in my 10 Rules of Successful Real Estate Investing. I really love what Tony Robbins has to say about setting goals. He said, “Setting goals is the first step in turning the invisible into the visible.” The way I look at it is a goal is different from a wish, because everybody wishes to be rich, but that doesn’t mean that you’ll ever take those steps that it takes to become successful. Tell us the things that hold people back from achieving their goals.
Just before I get there, what I really like about Tony Robbins and what you said there, Marco, is that success leaves clues. Tony has basically been able to take his whole life and really study why the human beings think and behave the way they do, and what makes people successful and what prevents people from being successful. If you really want to know the secret, it boils down to two things. Both those words in Tony’s mind start with the letter M. The first word is Mindset and the second word is Modeling.
Tony has been amazing with his mindset in developing his own Peak Performance Strategies. Then, to be honest, Tony doesn’t reinvent the wheel. He goes out there and models other people who are already doing what it is he wanted to do. It doesn’t matter if it’s in real estate or in finance, in your health, in your relationships, it’s really, do you have a Peak Performance mindset? Are you willing to do whatever it takes? Are you modeling best practices? Does that make sense?
It makes total sense. A lot of it is psychological.
With being able to be behind the scenes and watch Tony and really connect with what he does, and obviously as a Master Platinum Coach with him, I’ve got a lot of the same tools and methodologies and strategies. Really with real estate investors, after being on the phone and having well over 10,000 coaching hours with investors, I’ve developed my very own understanding of, what are the five top reasons why real estate investors can’t get to the next level or can’t scale their business?
The first one, Marco, is absolutely further to what spoke to, and that is you have to have goals. Those goals must be backed up by a strategic plan. You know what? Most people don’t plan. Tony says, “If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.” Number one, if you don’t have a strategic plan to follow, you’re already behind the eight ball. Does that make sense?
Yes, total sense.
Number two is what we call limiting beliefs. We’re human beings and human beings always have some doubts, fears or anxieties that creep in from time to time. It’s fear that is another thing that holds people back from really grabbing the bull by the horns and moving forward. Would you agree with that?
I totally agree with that. One example that just popped into my mind is, people we talk to, investors that we talk to, have made a decision to invest in real estate. But one of the hurdles that some people have is investing in markets that are far away, what we refer to as just out of state investing. Because if they’re in an expensive market like Coastal California, as an example, they realize that they’re not going to get the returns in an unaffordable market like we live in here. They need to go to places like Kansas City, Birmingham, Memphis, Indianapolis, wherever. That’s a psychological hurdle or roadblock that they need to overcome. We help them through that. That’s just one example of what you’re talking about.
You’re spot on. That’s absolutely the truth. Then that carries us to number three, which is what we call lack of consistent and persistent action. It’s great to have a plan and it’s great to clear out those cobwebs or limiting beliefs. But if you’re not getting up every day and taking action towards what it is you’re trying to achieve, you’re fooling yourself. That’s number three. Does that resonate with you?
It does, and here’s another example. Some people see that the first step is monumental, that they’ll never be able to move forward because that first step is so big. But if you just break it down into smaller and smaller and smaller bite sized pieces, then that first step is so much easier to take. It’s like reading a book. You’re not going to finish a book in one night, not necessarily. But what if you read five pages or seven pages tonight, and then put it down and come back to it tomorrow and read another five pages? Guess what? That starts to build momentum.
You’ve absolutely nailed that, and it’s so true. That carries us to number four, which is what we call lack of leverage. That means lack of purpose. If you don’t have a big, fat, compelling reason why you want to scale your real estate business, the chances of you attaining it are slimmer. Because again, we only say that the “why” is the rocket fuel or the juice behind what you do and what fires you up to go take it on every day. Does that make sense?
It makes great sense. I’ll give you another example. People think that they want to become rich and wealthy because they want lots of money, but it’s not the money that they actually want. Money is just cash. It’s a piece of paper with ink on it. It’s really, what does that give you ultimately? It’s the freedom to spend time with your family, to travel, to not have to work [9:00] to [5:00]. It’s the bigger picture. It’s the context of what you were going after.
Correct. You’re spot on again, and very well said. Then, number five, Marco, the fifth reason why people don’t scale and get to the next level is, a lack of accountability, which means, if you don’t have a coach, a mentor, an accountability buddy or somebody holding your feet to the fire, we know that the law of diminishing intent kicks in, and you find yourself doing things that you shouldn’t be doing. When we take a look at those five things, and again after doing so many coaching calls with real estate investors around the United States and around the globe, I challenge people to take a look at that list and ask themselves, in what order of hierarchy would they put that for themselves? Are they missing a plan? Have they got limiting beliefs? Are they not taking enough action? Do they not have enough leverage? Or are they missing out on the accountability? If you start to take care of those things, it’s amazing to see how people truly can step up, take their game to the next level and achieve that freedom you’re talking about.
I think accountability is a big one because a lot of people don’t have an accountability partner. They lack someone pushing them. Often, it’s their spouse that is the person that may be holding them back and not actually pushing them forward. They need more than just an accountability partner. They need someone who really can breakthrough and help them get to that other level, regardless of all their friends, family and neighbors pulling their back or saying, “You’re crazy. Why would you go on and get involved in real estate investing now? The markets are hot or inflated.” There are so many reasons to talk down your ideas. But if you have a goal and you want to get somewhere, you need someone to say, “Yes, you can do this. Let me show you how. Let me make sure you actually do what you say you’re going to do, what you need to do.”
I don’t know how to address that with our investors. Usually when they contact us, they’ve made that determination or commitment, but some of them just end up falling back into the woods and we never hear from them again. I think accountability is very important because you can set a goal, but now you need to execute on that goal.
We always say that there is no failure, there’s only feedback. If you’re not getting to your outcome or you’re not scaling the business, you really haven’t failed. You’re just getting feedback that one of those five things might not be in place. Does that make sense?
Yes. I think of what Tony Robbins talks about. He says that if you want to be successful, you need to find someone who has already achieved the results you want and then copy what they do, because if you do, then you’ll achieve the same results. Call that modeling or mirroring, whatever you want to call it. I truly believe that. I bring that up because back in Denver, you had talked about Tony Robbins’ Three-Step Peak Performance Success Strategy. Maybe give us an overview of that, because I remember there are three parts to that: state, story, strategy. That was easy to remember. I’ll let you explain those three parts.
Most people think that the only thing that they need to do is have a strategy. That’s really the third piece of the puzzle, because there are two things that you must have, according to Tony, prior to executing on a strategy. That is checking in with your state management, or what he calls state, and also checking in with your story. Marco, your story is your identity. It’s how you feel you’re going to show up in order to do something. Tony has got a great quote that I’ll share with you in just a minute on story, because it’s really these three things that allow anybody to go from where they are to where they want to be. I’ll give you an example maybe just outside the real estate arena. Let’s take a look at something like losing weight. I’m sure you know a lot of people, maybe even yourself, that have wanted to get into great shape and maybe drop a few pounds. Would that be true?
Yes, a lot of people.
If we just start with strategy, I’m telling you, if you type “diet” into Google, you’re going to get a ton of hits. If you drive through any major city in the United States, there’s a gym on every fifth or seventh or twelfth corner. Would you agree?
The strategies are there, yet we have a country that really is obese and really doesn’t understand that if it was just strategy alone, they’d be able to lose that weight, be thin and live healthier lives. What we like to throw in there and what Tony is all about is the fact that he believes that 80% of success is psychology, 20% is mechanics. That means that the state and the story make up the 80% of your success and then following a great strategy or modeling strategy is going to get you to where you want to go. Does that make sense?
It does, yes. Psychology is so important. It’s not just Tony Robbins that talks about it, even Robert Kiyosaki. There are so many people that just tell you that you need to put the stuff in between your ears and have that proper before you can actually start taking action. It’s like trying to go to a destination without a roadmap. If you don’t have it set straight between your ears, you’re not going to get there.
It really does start with your state. Maybe just to go one step further for the audience so they’ll understand it and they can apply it is this, your state is made up of three things. It’s your physiology, that’s how you show up in your mind and in your body energetically. It’s your focus. I know you’re a big quote guy, Marco, because I’ve heard you say this on your show before. Here’s a good one, “Where focus goes, energy flows.” I’m telling you, people are either focused on what they don’t want or they’re focused on what they do want. Again, you’ve got to get your physiology, your focus. Then, number three, your language squared away, because your language, both what you say out loud and that little voice inside your head is going to dictate your behavior. We know that your behavior is going to dictate your results. Would you agree?
I coach real estate investors all over the US to step in to their peak state so that they can go out there and crush it in real estate every day. The second thing that I’ve alluded to was your story. Tony says that the strongest force in the human personality is the need to be consistent with how we define ourselves. “The strongest force in the human personality is the need to be consistent with how we define ourselves.” If we define ourselves as a newbie real estate investor with no experience, we’re probably going to produce results with that identity. But if we say, “I’m a real estate investor who’s committed to understanding and applying what I’m learning, and understanding that there is no failure, there’s only feedback and that you can keep course correcting until you get your outcome,” that’s a much more powerful identity to be in. Would you agree with that?
I do. It reminds me of all this self-talk. What people say to themselves in their head really affects how they act, what they do or don’t do, how they feel about themselves. That’s part of my success formula, is how you feel. Because if you feel good about yourself and positive about where you’re going and you believe that you’re going to get there, your actions will mirror that. If you feel like a failure and you believe what other people tell you that that’s harder, that’s impossible, if you start believing that, you will never achieve any of your goals.
Spot on, Marco. You really know this stuff. When you think about what Tony does, whether it’s with a business person or a professional sports athlete or even an Olympic, a guy like Michael Phelps, Tony is aligning them with, what is the peak state? What is the peak identity? How can you use a peak strategy to take you from where you are to where you want to be? As we close the loop there, the state is your physiology, your focus in your language. Your story is your identity. Your strategy is the step by step system or blueprint or roadmap or recipe that takes you from where you are to where you want to be.
That’s the Three-Step Peak Performance Success Strategy. I think you’ve said enough about state management. It’s such an important part and a big part of this, it’s that 80% along with story. Is there anything else you want to comment on regarded to state management? I know you spend a fair amount of time on it.
You bet. It doesn’t matter if I am coaching a real estate investor or a Fortune 500 executive or even some of my clients that are Olympians or professional sports heroes. I think you also have to sprinkle in a couple of extra things. Number one is hunger. I’m sure you’ve heard other people say that when somebody’s hungry, they’ll get up early, they’ll stay up late. They’ll align their state and story and strategy with whatever they need to to blow through any obstacles or anything that stands in their way. I like to say, “How hungry are you as an individual? How are you feeding that hunger?”
The second thing on top of that is passion. I know that passion is the number one thing that Tony talks about. When you truly love going out there and finding deals or talking to other real estate investors or property managers or general contractors, or if you’ve got a passion for the business, that also is going to assist you in taking your game to the next level. Would you agree with that? Does hunger and passion factor in to the people that you serve?
100%. Passion is one of the things that drives me every day. I love what I do. I like helping other people. I know if I help them to be successful, naturally that just makes me successful because it helps to grow our business
That is the Three-Step Peak Performance Strategy, with state, story, strategy, all mixed in together.
One of the biggest things I heard you talk about back in Denver is, and this was one of those things where I think I’ve seen it before but my jaw was open because I was just gobbling up what you were saying and it made so much sense. It’s this Real Estate Investor Ladder of Success. You had it in a pictorial form on the screen with just a ladder going from bottom to top, vertically, and then you had broken down the different stages or steps along that ladder. Let’s get into that because that was just amazing to me, and it was very powerful how tinier and tinier shifts can make such massive change in your outcome.
I’m so glad that you enjoyed it. You’ve done a great job giving everyone a visual because I want everybody to, on the screen of their mind right now, think about a ladder with six rungs on it. We’re going to start at the very bottom rung of the Real Estate Investor Ladder of Success and build our way up. This comes from a little bit of how I’ve performed in my real estate investing and how I’ve seen where clients literally transform their business or a breakthrough or absolutely go out there and crush it. Once I share this with you and you learn it, you can’t unlearn it. It’s that powerful.
If we start off with the bottom run, Marco, the very first level that we can all show up at as real estate investors is what we call Poor. Get a picture of that ladder. That first rung is where we show up poorly. Let me ask you this. If we show up poorly in what we do in real estate, let’s say, in property management, what kind of results does showing up poorly equal in today’s real estate world? People typically think that poor efforts yield poor results. I’m telling you, they don’t. Tony Robbins and I both agree that poor equals pain. If you show up poor in property management or your property manager does a poor job, it’s not just poor results. It’s like getting kicked. Ultimately, that’s the first rung on the ladder. Poor equals pain.
Let’s immediately jump to level two. The second rung on the ladder is what we refer to as Good. I want you to get a picture on the screen of your mind, that second rung is where you show up and you do something good. For example, communicating with your GC or General Contractor. In today’s fast paced world, if you’re only good at communicating, and remember there’s four more rungs on the ladder, if you’re only good, I want people to think what kind of results that yields. The answer to that is poor. Good now equals poor on the Real Estate Investor Ladder of Success. Does that make sense, Marco?
We jump up to level three on the ladder, which is what we call Great. If you’re following the path of how the ladder has been yielding results on the other side, if you show up great in today’s world, and you’re great at driving neighborhoods and great at sending out yellow letters and great at going to networking events, great isn’t that great. Because in today’s competitive real estate world, great equals good. I want everybody to get a picture of the first three rungs on the ladder. Poor equals pain. Good equals poor. Great equals good. Now, what I get my clients to do is to imagine a line horizontally above the word great. We’re going to separate the three bottom rungs from the three top rungs.
At level four, Marco, this is where it starts to get fun, this is where it starts to get interesting. Level four is what we call Excellent. If you do an excellent job in your real estate activities in today’s world, maybe you’re excellent at negotiating deals or getting good terms. In today’s world, we feel that that produces or that equals great results. Again, there’s two other levels that are available to all of us if we choose to step into the right state, story and strategy.
Level five is the level that we call Outstanding. Outstanding real estate activities today produce what we call excellent results. If you show up and you’re outstanding at raising capital or you’re outstanding at whatever it is that you’re doing, you’re going to produce results that are excellent for you to really continue to move up the ladder of success.
There’s one more rung. At the very top of the ladder, and this is the level that Tony Robbins says that if you want to be the very best in anything, you want to achieve this level. It’s what we refer to as Extraordinary. If you show up and you do things at the extraordinary level everyday and you get into a peak state and a peak story and execute on everything that you need to do every day, you have the opportunity to produce what we call outstanding results.
The cool thing about the Ladder of Success is it’s available to all of us. My question is, where do you feel you’re showing up all-in on the Real Estate Ladder of Success? Are you showing up Poor, Good, Great? Or are you playing what we call above the line? Because if you’re playing above the line at Excellent, Outstanding, or Extraordinary, obviously that’s going to indicate the level of results that you’re going to get. Does this make sense, Marco?
I like this because I can map this to virtually anything I do in my life, business or personal. I can take anything and I can say where am I with this on this Ladder of Success. I’m great at this type of thing. That means I’m getting good results. What if I step it up a notch to Excellent? Now, I should be getting great results. I think what I can do with this ladder is I can take everything in my life and I can map it over to this ladder and say, “I’m great here, good here, outstanding here,” and then see where I can improve.
What that does is, just by you, checking in with all of those things, it gives you a little report card for you to maybe have to pick it up and support yourself. Or maybe you’re not good at something and that needs to be delegated to somebody else. Or maybe you’re not outstanding at something and you need to get some support. It really doesn’t matter if it is real estate that you’re checking in with or if it something in your personal life. Maybe you should check in on where you’re showing up on the ladder with your diet, or spending time with your significant other, or how you’re spending time with your kids. There are always things that we can do to ask ourselves, “Who do we need to be? How do we need to show up to get to the next level or to climb the ladder?”
I’m telling you, Marco, there’s a really cool edition to all of these. We believe that to jump from Poor to Good, that level one to level two, is a massive leap. It takes a lot of energy, effort and talent. But to go from Good to Great is equivalent to maybe moving up, say, one yard or one meter. To go from Great to Excellence is even less because that’s about a foot. Or to go from Excellent to Outstanding could be six inches. Imagine what you could do slightly differently to move up six inches. Or to go from Outstanding, level five to level six, which is Extraordinary, just like an Olympic athlete who sometimes wins gold by 0.0100th of a second, we call that a two-millimeter shift.
What could you do differently to shift by two millimeters or do something slightly different? Because I’m telling you, in real estate investing, it’s the little things that add up to the big things. Would you agree with that?
Yes, that was the big eye-opener for me. I didn’t realize or at least I didn’t stop to think that to go from one level to the next level above it required a smaller and smaller change or improvement. Someone can go from Great to Excellent with only a six-inch change. Then from Excellent to Outstanding, with only a one-inch change. It’s like one-sixth the effort. If that’s what it takes, why not shoot to go all the way to the top and become extraordinary? It’s doable.
It is doable and I’ve seen clients absolutely scale. I’ve had clients that owned one or two or three properties, and all of a sudden they own multiple apartment buildings or a strip mall, or they’re doing a big land development deal, or they’re buying self-storage facilities. It’s absolutely amazing to see what happens when you commit to playing above the line in everything you do.
I’ve seen it happen. You are the coach to one of my friends who started with virtually nothing just a few years ago, and now has acquired over $100 million of real estate. That’s an incredible achievement. He speaks highly of you. That’s another reason I wanted to bring you on the show. If you can help a guy like my friend, Joe, achieve that level of success, that tells me two things. One, you’re very good at what you do, and two, anybody can do it. Anybody that puts their mind and energy and focus on it can do it, because if Joe was able to do it starting from virtually nothing to $100 million in real estate, then that means everybody else can at least have a fair legitimate shot at doing the same thing.
Thank you for that. It’s been an absolute pleasure to work with Joe and coach Joe for the past four years. It’s absolutely the truth. He has used every single one of these things that we’ve talked about on your show today. He has applied himself. I guess I’d also throw in there for people that hear, you go from literally nothing to over $100 million worth of assets under management. I’m telling you, it is possible. I’ve got several clients in addition to Joe who are absolutely kicking butt, taking names and growing and having so much fun doing it.
There’s a great, great, great quote by Tony. He often says that people over estimate what they can do in a year, but they underestimate what they could do in two, three, five or ten years. When you hear these big numbers thrown away or you want to get to a certain number of doors, set the bar high. If you’re just shooting for the moon, when you could shoot for the stars? Shoot for the stars. I’m telling you, once you put it on paper, it becomes real. The universe does support you in our efforts by giving you the right opportunities at the right time, or the right private lender at the right time, or the right turnkey opportunity at the right time. I truly believe that Joe’s success and the success of all my clients is due to a lot of the stuff that we’re talking about here. It is a mental game and it’s a physical game. It’s state and story and it is strategy.
I agree. Let’s wrap up with a final thought here. Maybe you can comment on this. I have this quote, I don’t know if it’s Tony Robbins or you, but the quote is this. “People who are interested in success will do what is convenient. However, people who are committed to success will do whatever it takes.” I think it’s pretty self-explanatory, but it’s a great way to close this particular episode. Give me your comments and final thoughts on this.
There’s a huge, huge difference between the two. Oftentimes, we talk about mastery. How does one become a master of anything? Whether it’s in real estate or in finances or in your relationships or in your body? We often say that there are three things that move us to mastery. The three things are as follows. Number one is what we call Intellectual Mastery. That’s the knowing part of it. Obviously, you’ve got to go out there and learn, what are the key components to real estate that can support you? The second level of mastery is what we call, Emotional Mastery. That is, are you able to maneuver with the ups and downs, the day and night, the black and white? All the different trials and tribulations that being in real estate can throw at you.
Number three. Are you out there to what we use, called Physical Mastery. That is, are you going out there and applying it every day? If you know it, you emotionalize it, and you physically do it, and you’re not just interested but committed to your outcomes. When you’ve got that desire that Napoleon Hill talks about in Think and Grow Rich that he calls “white hot.” If you know the story, Napoleon Hill was interviewing Andrew Carnegie who owned the steel mills. Andrew Carnegie gave him this term “white hot desire” because that’s the color that metal turns when it gets heated up to its hottest point. Most people think it turns orange or red. It’s not. It’s actually white.
When you’ve got a desire that says “hot as the hottest point that metal gets” and you’re committed to it, you climb this Ladder of Success and you step into state, story and strategy, imagine what’s possible for you. Imagine what you could do to take your real estate investing to the next level. That’s what all of this is all about. You can have a lot of fun doing it as well.
Trevor, there was a ton of great material and content in this episode. I want to recommend that listeners go back and listen to it at least another time, if not twice more, because you don’t know what you’ve missed. When you hear something the first time, it may be an eye-opener but it may not gel. If you go back and listen to it one more time, then it really starts to sink in and it becomes a more tangible item. It’s worth listening to two or three times. It’s online and it’s available 24/7, so that’s easy to do.
Having said that, there are a lot of takeaways from this particular episode, and one big one is accountability. A lot of people get it, they have a desire, they have a goal. They know that they need to take action. They have a lot of those pieces in place, but maybe they’re just not where they need to be in terms of being taken by the hand and walking over the line to get that motion going for them. Accountability is a big thing. I think that’s where you can really help some people, where this material really resonates and they realize, “I do need some help and I’m not afraid to ask for that help. Please tell me how you can take me to the next level.” With that, please tell our listeners how they can find out more about you and get more information.
Thank you very much. It’s been my joy and pleasure to be on your show. I love the work you do. I think that this gives people a real platform to really think about a lot of the things that you and your guests talk about to go to the next level. If people are interested in hearing a little bit more about how a coaching structure could support them in taking them from where they are to where they want to be. Just go to www.CoachWithTrevor.com. You can enter your name and details. Actually, I would be more than happy to jump on a call with anybody. I’d support the listeners of your show and give them what they need. I truly believe that a high tide lifts all boats. As long as we all play a bigger game and we all focus on the number one law of the universe, which is expansion, and we’re all looking to learn and grow, it would be my pleasure to jump on a call and support anyone who’d like to go there. They could go to www.CoachWithTrevor.com, or you can contact me through my own website which is TrevorMcGregor.com.
Trevor, this has been fantastic. I appreciate the time you’ve spent. I look forward to speaking with you again here soon.
Absolutely. My pleasure. Thank you for having me on the show. Let’s stay in touch.
Thank you, Trevor.
All right, take care.
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